The Classic Buses Website (by Shane Conway)

Website launched by Dick Gilbert in August 1996, and this page was last updated on 26 April 2024.


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** STAR PICTURE **

Something different for a change, a Routemaster still in revenue earning service. The Dame Street area of Dublin had been closed off on March 23rd 2024 for a hour or two to accomodate a protest march against the Palestinian conflict, resulting in a number of bus routes and other traffic being held up while it passed by. Most of the buses were typical modern Dublin Bus vehicles, but then I spotted the RM....... It's one of three Routemasters now owned by Vintage Tea Tours in Dublin, this one being the latest recruit to the fleet, re-registered ZV 12589. Previously it was WLT 654, which had been preserved in Ulster since the mid 1980s in original London Transport livery, and very smart it was too, even retaining its Leyland engine. Recently it was sold, to re-emerge in this format joining similarly attired ZV 10903 (RM811) and ZV 11165 (RM2078). It does raise debates as to whether buses which have been preserved and restored should end up like this, and both for and against opinions can seem equally valid. There is always the option to one day restore the bus to original spec, but for now its being kept roadworthy and out earning its keep.


Does anyone know a classic bus enthusiast named Dave Maguire from South West London? If so please read the request at this link. Thank you.


This website is dedicated to the memory of the Classic Buses website founder, Dick Gilbert, who set up the site back in 1996. Born in South London on October 28th, 1947, his interest in the topic of the site began around 1959/60 after his family moved to Eastbourne in Sussex. As might be expected, London, Sussex and Hampshire feature prominently throughout the site, but other areas are covered too. In 2002 my Classic Irish Buses site joined the group, with a Manx section being added in 2012. Being employed in the airfreight industry for many years, he managed to visit many overseas locations and wrote several pages on various locations around the world, including a 1970 trip overland to Tehran he and a friend made in a ten year old Volkswagen camper van. After a serious illness Mr. Gilbert passed away in Sussex on Wednesday, May 31st 2023, leaving behind many years of classic bus research which can be seen at the various links below. Without his help and generosity my own sites would never have gone online, and by way of thanks for his help, I have agreed with his family to continue to run the site in the years ahead. Thank you too, to all our contributors and those who sent condolences, and I look forward to regular updates in the future.

Dick Gilbert in Independence Square, Kyiv, Ukraine in 1996, around the time he originally set up the Classic Buses website.


Latest Additions:

  • *NEW* Updated info on DFK 214 on the surviving halfcabs page (4/24)
  • *NEW* Commer Commando airline buses review (4/24)
  • *NEW* Picture of HA 9483 added to the surviving halfcabs page (4/24)
  • *NEW* New updates to the events page -- many 2024 events now listed (4/24)
  • *NEW* Updated info on JNN 384 on the Barton post-war Leyland Titans page (3/24)
  • *NEW* Updated info on AHC 411 on the surviving halfcabs page (3/24)
  • *NEW* A new ** STAR PICTURE ** - see above (3/24)
  • *NEW* A look at ex U.K. Bedfords with Plaxton bodies in Malta (3/24)
  • *NEW* An update on the Mail and news page (3/24)
  • *NEW* A look at ex U.K. Bedfords with Duple or Marshall bodies in Malta (3/24)
  • *NEW* Updated text on ASC 665B photo (2/24)
  • *NEW* Updated info on GDM 494 and KGK 424 on the surviving halfcabs page (2/24)
  • *NEW* A look at ex U.K. Fords in Malta
  • *NEW* A complete guide to all the U. K. and Irish bus photographs on the three sites. (2/24)
  • *NEW* New update to the adverts page -- 1937 Bedford WTB for sale (1/24)
  • *NEW* Additional data/corrections to the preserved trolleybuses page (12/23)
  • *NEW* King Alfred page -- photo of HAA 809 added and JAA 708 updated (12/23)
  • *NEW* A look at imported Bristol LHs in Malta (12/23)
  • *NEW* A look at ex London Transport AEC Swifts in Malta (12/23)
  • *NEW* Additional photo added to the history of Hall Bros of South Shields (11/23)
  • *NEW* Updated info on LFM 731 on the surviving halfcabs page (11/23)
  • *NEW* New info on ex British buses in Yugoslavia in 1960 (11/23)
  • *NEW* A new ?? MYSTERY PICTURE ?? from Sri Lanka - see below (11/23).

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    ?? MYSTERY PICTURE ??

    This bus carried the Sri Lankan registration IC 463 and was photographed on 19 December 2003 by Vinodh Wickremeratne of Boralesgamuwa, Sri Lanka. Other views of it are here , and here. But what is it, and assuming it was an import, where in the U.K did it come from? That style of upper rear window was used by Alexanders, East Lancs, Massey, and Neepsend in the late 50s and early 60s. Underneath it could be AEC, Daimler, Guy or Leyland, and known operators who used vehicles from those coachbuilders included Cardiff, Sheffield, Southampton and Southend. Clearly the bus had been derelict for many years at the time the photo was taken.

    Can anyone suggest an identity for this machine? Email me if you can help.

    A response from Simon Lang has provided the answer. Firstly the reg number is pre 1956, so it's not a used import. In fact it was one of eight Leyland bodied Leyland PD2s bought new by the South Western Omnibus Company in Colombo in 1947 and 1949 (four in each year) along with ten Guy Arabs bodied by Park Royal and Northern Coachbuilders. As the 2003 photo shows, IC 463 has clearly been heavily altered over the years, including sliding side windows, London RT style upper deck front, and that very non-Leyland rear dome and window. South Western bought eleven Albion Nimbuses (Nimbi??) in March 1956 and in 1958 the company (and many others) were amalgamated into the Ceylon Transport Board. Thank you Simon for clearing that mystery up.

    LAST MYSTERY

    The identity of the ex Ribble Titan in Yugoslavia was narrowed down to one of two buses, thanks to John Kaye.


    Welcome to the home of classic buses and coaches on the net, established by Dick Gilbert in 1996. This site is all about nostalgia for British passenger transport vehicles from the 1920s to the 1980s, with an unashamed bias towards halfcab buses.

    Each page has a different colour scheme which is supposed to be reminiscent of some bus or coach company from the era, and this one is meant to represent Western and Southern National. As a result of this arrangement, some of the pages are hard to read, and some will scramble your brain. Hopefully you'll manage.

    Dick's interest in British buses began in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and the buses and coaches that were around then are all classics now. It was an interesting period, when there were still pre-war and wartime utility machines about (although mostly on the point of retirement), and a large number of half-cab vehicles that had been built immediately after the war. At the same time, new products like the Leyland Atlantean, AEC Regent V, and a host of then modern coach designs (Plaxton Panorama, Harrington Cavalier, Weymann Fanfare etc.) were appearing. It was a transitional period when vehicles from the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and 1960s could all be seen in use at the same time.

    Having been born in south London, London Transport was the first operator that he lived with, then his family moved to Sussex and he grew up with Southdown, Maidstone and District, East Kent, and the municipal fleets of Eastbourne and Brighton, as well as the large number of excursion coaches that used to visit the south coast every summer.

    In the early 1960s he used to make trips to London to visit Victoria Coach Station, or see the last of the London Transport trolleybuses, or the last halfcab single deckers (TDs). Unfortunately, although he saw what he went to see, most of the photographs he took are not particularly brilliant, or have been lost. However there are some black and white pictures taken at Victoria Coach Station, London, and in Sussex between 1960 and 1962 which are barely reasonable, and some of them appear around this site. Here's one:

    This was taken at The Crumbles, Eastbourne, in the summer of 1962, where Claude Lane was running the narrow gauge Eastbourne Tramway (now moved to Seaton, Devon). He had used this ex Lincolnshire Road Car Leyland KPZ01 Cub as a lorry in the past, and it was left to rot outside his depot. New in May 1937 it was FW 8855, originally fleet number LC502, one of 30 delivered that year with Brush B20F bodies. It is possible that someone might rescue it these days, if it was still about.

    It's all for fun, so relax and have a wistful rummage through the scrapbook. If you weren't around in the 1960s (and they say that, if you were, you won't remember it) then these pages might provide an insight into the variety of some of the glamorous machines that could be seen on British streets at the time.

    Please call back from time to time, as changes are taking place here all the time, and let me know if you spot a mistake somewhere - I do try to keep things pretty accurate. I know that there are some real boffins out there, and I need you to tell me when something is inaccurate, or if you have additional data or photographs. So welcome to the site, browse around and make yourself at home. For 2024 additional pages are planned, including more of the Malta photo pages, and perhaps other topics too.


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