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Last updated 21 June 2017

In recent years I have received quite a bit of material about buses of British origin in New Zealand, so here are some pages to display some of it. Please feel free to send any suitable items and I will be happy to post them. The latest material is posted on this page (Page One).

New Zealand buses Page Two is here and Page Three is here.

There are some New Zealand bus links at the foot of this page.


MORE VIEWS FROM MAT'S TRAVELS

It's always a pleasure to hear from Mat Foster who sends me great pictures from around New Zealand as he travels about. This time we start with a very intriguing AEC Regal, as shown below. It's registered PI 3926.

This isn't a Regal I've come across before and Mat tells me it has been rescued for rebuild "down in Christchurch" so I hope someone can call in and give us more info about that. It doesn't look to me like a Christchurch, Dunedin or Wellington Regal, and I don't think Auckland ever had any. So I'm looking for clues, if you can help.

Mat also sent me this image of a Leyland Comet motorhome that he took last time they were in South Island. It belongs to a friend of theirs.

He also sent me another picture of our old friend Bedford VAL "Chubby Cheeks", and you can find that at the top of Page 3, as well as a photo of a Sydney AEC Regent which now appears on my Australian pages. Thanks Mat, as ever, for your interesting contributions.


LONDON RTL

Joe Goodin from New Plymouth called me in 2005 to ask for repair information for his wonderful ex London Transport 1948 Leyland Titan RTL68 (JXN 391). I'm not the man for technical stuff, but I knew someone who could help. He was also looking for an authentic London Transport driver's uniform !

This is almost certainly the only RTL ever to come to New Zealand and, by my reckoning, the fourth oldest surviving RTL in the world - only RTLs 43, 47 and 48 (all in UK) pre-date it. Whether it was actually built at the very end of 1948 or January 1949 is not clear, but it's a pleasure to see it in use. Thanks Joe.

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In 2013 Alan Bond contacted me with the following additional information;
"I remember RTL 68 when it was owned by the late Ted Brakell and I drove it many times. I was very disappointed when he sold it to the chap in NZ, as roof box RTLs are as rare as hen's teeth. Ted also had RTL 247 for a while and sold that to Sentosa Island, Singapore where it finished up being driven over a cliff into the sea to create a marine wildife conservation area. The entire Sentosa fleet of 8 RTs & RTLs was disposed of in this way and included RT 3420 which was a Windsor bus that was decapitated under a low bridge at Kingston while on Green Line relief duties. Quite by coincidence it was the same bridge that decapitated RT 1420 whose body was then removed and replaced by the prototype RT body (18246) and the bus is now known as RT 1 and resides in the London Bus Museum at Brooklands."

"I can provide a full history of both chassis and body of RTL68. Brief details are:-
Chassis unit no 8317 - New as RTL 1319 (body 6527) 6/52 until 1/56 at Hackney. Overhauled 1/56 as RTL 1324 (body 6527 again) and to Middle Row, Clay Hall & Tottenham respectively until 1/60. Overhauled again 1/60 as RTL 1333 (body 6527 again) and to Dalston until 1/64. Final overhaul 1/64 as RTL 68 (body 2038) and to Bow and Poplar."

"Body 2038 - New as RT 759 6/48 until 2/56 at Mortlake and Plumstead. Overhauled 2/56 as RT 2929 to Enfield until 9/59. Overhauled 10/59 as RT 3476 to Enfield again until 1/64 when the body went on to chassis 8317 above as RTL 68."

"RTL 68 was withdrawn from service at Poplar wef from 1st April 1967 and sold White City Coaches, Bryony Road, London, W12 wef from 4th July 1968. It passed to Ted Brakell in the early '70s who sold it to its present owner."

Many thanks Alan.

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I received a further update from Charles Loughlin in June 2017. He told me "I have seen and taken photos of the 1948 Leyland Titan bus RTL 68. It was parked in a layby near Governor's Bay, South Island on 14 February 2016. I think the bus had been parked in the layby for quite a while as the warrant of fitness had expired on 23 April 2015. She was covered in cobwebs around the bonnet and grille but the tyres hadn't deflated much. Sad to see her in that state."

Thanks Charles. Let's hope a fairy godmother turns up soon.


OLD LEYLANDS STILL AT WORK

Philip Murf sent me this picture of his 1966 Worldmaster (former Dunedin 136, on the right) alongside a 1981 New Zealand Motor Bodies Leyland Leopard (Dunedin City Transport 194, the city's last Leyland) belonging to the Otago Heritage Bus Society. They were ferrying people attending the FRONZ convention in Dunedin early in June 2017. (For the full story on the Worldmaster, see the item further down this page.)

Philip also sent me this photo of 1976 Dunedin 170, a Leyland Leopard with an Emslie body. After retirement by Dunedin it became a school bus, then a motor caravan and finally wound up on a farm. Rescued in 2012 it is now a valued working member of the Otago Heritage collection.

Here's another picture of Leopard 170 in the background with similar 174 on the right. Acquired by the Otago Heritage Bus Society in 2014 No.174 wears the later livery as used by Citibus. Thanks very much to Philip for the pictures.


MEMORIES OF OLD BEDFORDS

In January 2017 Jeffery Leeden kindly sent me these two pictures. He says that the Bedford OB above, "Old Bedy", was his second bus and that he converted the vehicle below to a mobile home and always regretted selling it. It apparently had a Bedford chassis and a Perkins 6354 6-cylinder diesel engine.

At first I thought it could have come from New Zealand Railways, but Jeffery said is was a sister to "Chubby Cheeks" (see the Bedford VAL on Page 2) but not a twin-steer. "Chubby Cheeks" was apparently one of 28 that came to New Zealand in 1964 and has a very similar body built by Modern Motor Bodies in Christchurch. The VAL was initially a Bedford promo bus, so perhaps this one was too. Thanks to Jeffery for the photos.


RARE (UNIQUE?) SEDDON SURVIVOR

In September 2016 Jodi Lucas said he was selling his housebus and wondered if I could tell him anything about it. It had me stumped, but he then started to find answers for himself. Apparently it claimed to be a 1956 Mk.6/2 Seddon Atkinson, possibly with a railway history. I had no idea that Seddon built any halfcabs.

Jodi came across a chassis number (31672), an engine number (RL25383) and evidence that it was first registered in New Zealand in 1956. An entry at the bottom of this page by the NZ Omnibus Society reveals that North Shore Transport of Takapuna acquired 14 Seddon Mk.6 buses like this between 1951 and 1956 with 34-seat halfcab bodies made in-house by North Shore. I'm assuming that it's the last one on the list (No.94) and they've got the chassis number wrong.

And here's a picture of the same vehicle in service in 1969, with the kind permission of photographer Peter Trevor, and with the assistance of the New Zealand Omnibus Society.

This is probably the only surviving halfcab Seddon in the world! If anyone has more information (or knows of another one) then please let me know. Meanwhile many thanks to Jodi for letting me know about it.


ANOTHER WELLINGTON RELIANCE TURNS UP

In April 2016 Richard kindly sent me these pictures of his housebus, a former Wellington AEC Reliance. New to Wellington City Transport in 1957 as No.92 (but later renumbered 292) it has an MCCW 40-seat bus body and was one of 77 delivered that year. The original AEC engine is apparently long-gone, as Richard tells me it now has a Bedford diesel engine. He says "It was reregistered in 1988. A Bedford 500 motor and gearbox with a front radiator was fitted during this time - notice the Bedford badge and Bedford-style grille. It was fitted out to a motor home in 1990. I purchased this bus in 2012 and have kept up the COF and all NZMCA requirements over this time."

Another one (No.122) of these Reliances is preserved by the Omnibus Society, and another one (No.83) was noted working as a movan a few years ago - see the bottom of my webpage here. Thanks Richard - it looks terrific.


RARE WORLDMASTER COMPLETES SIX-YEAR RESTORATION

At the beginning of 2010 Philip Murphy of Timaru found this 1966 Dunedin City Transport (DCT) Leyland Royal Tiger Worldmaster (No.136) heading for the scrapheap, and wondered if it could be saved.

Dunedin Leyland Worldmaster

Between 1959 and 1968 Dunedin had 30 of these ERT1/1 buses with NZ Motor Bodies bodywork in various lengths and sizes. This is one of the last and largest versions, 35 feet long and seating 47. It may be the only one left. Philip called me to see if I could raise some interest in saving it, especially since finding somewhere to display it was proving a bit difficult.

But in late September 2010 Philip emailed again to say "Well the bus is now mine. It had unfortuately been sold for use as storage, but someone who knew I was after it, saw it in a field and told me. I was lucky enough to be offered it. It's going to get a quick service just to ensure it can move under its own power, and will then be shipped up to me in Timaru, where I guess I will spend MANY hours restoring it!" Here's a video of it coming off the low loader in Timaru.

Now there's more news. In December 2015 Phil said "Above is a photo of her almost ready to be painted and here's a video of her back in Dunedin heading to the testing station for a pre certification check. Excluding the interior, she passed with only a couple of minor things (tyres and a sticky brake). The Otago Heritage Bus Society, of which I am a member, are completing the painting for me."

And here is the final result. Philip says "All finally painted, and with me at the wheel about to depart on her first passenger run in many years for the Otago Heritage Bus Society's Dunedin Suburban Rambler Service, Easter 2016".

Congratulations Philip, and thanks for keeping us informed of progress. If anyone out there knows of any other examples, please let me know.


NZ RAILWAY BEDFORDS

Peter Anderson took quite a few photographs of NZ buses around 1978, and here are some of them, concentrating on the huge fleet of New Zealand Railways Road Services Bedford SB buses. This picture shows No.3473 (DU 9979) in use between Ashburton and Timaru to transport personnel working on the railway tracks.

Here's the back of the same vehicle, showing an unusual boot door design!

Colour schemes for the New Zealand Motor Bodies coachwork changed over the years, and this looks to be No.4795 in an orange livery. It is seen outside the "Gladstone Tavern" - is that the one in Masterton?

Finally we have another livery, but unfortunately no clue to the identity of this bus. Thanks very much to Peter for sending the interesting collection of images.


New Zealand buses Page Two is here and Page Three is here.

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